Женя и его тренер А.Н.Мишин || Evgeni and his coach Mishin

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Re: Женя и его тренер А.Н.Мишин || Evgeni and his coach Mish

Postby cekoni » 06 Apr 2012, 16:18

lilywang wrote:.... The spot to Worlds 2013 does not belong to anyone, only the strongest male skater in Russia. And so far Plushy has demonstrated that he is the best male skater in Russia. Let others prove otherwise.

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.... just pity that 2013 Worlds is not in Nice, than in CHanada :plush44: :plush34:
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Re: Женя и его тренер А.Н.Мишин || Evgeni and his coach Mish

Postby dimi » 09 Apr 2012, 00:57

I know spot is not guaranted to anyone but realistically Russian Nationals will not give it to Arthur unless Plush has a meltdown. If they skate the same way more or less like past RN, they will give the spot to Plush. I have a theory also that Plush wont go to Euros, and save for Worlds, maybe I m wrong but this I think would be Mishin strategy.
Anyway my whole point was because I read from the President of Federation when they asked him

Journalist: Many fans are saying the same: nevermind Russia has just one entry in the Worlds- Evgenii Pluschenko will come back and fix it. Do you cound on it as well?
Gorshkov: I do.
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Re: Женя и его тренер А.Н.Мишин || Evgeni and his coach Mish

Postby Kudryavka » 09 Apr 2012, 09:05

For me, it will be a big surprise in 2013 IF someone-not-Plushenko will volunteer to act as a skater who have to save Russia's spots. If Gachinski himself wants to act the difficult role but fail again, IMO, it may risk his sporting career. At least, mentally. :plush38:
I can understand why coaches say like "Plushenko will save Russia again", wituout thinking, whether he wants to be chosen or not. Of course this is only a story of "possibility". Nobody knows what will happen tomorrow :plush35:
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Re: Женя и его тренер А.Н.Мишин || Evgeni and his coach Mish

Postby maolmi » 10 Apr 2012, 21:45

«На олимпийский пьедестал нельзя заплыть в теплом сладком молоке»
Заслуженный тренер Алексей Мишин — о провале Гачинского, намерениях Плющенко и о происходящем в фигурном катании


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Re: Женя и его тренер А.Н.Мишин || Evgeni and his coach Mish

Postby karnelove » 11 Apr 2012, 17:31

I think Russia should obey their usual selection policies. Use Nationals to choose who to send to Europeans. Use Europeans to choose who to send to Worlds.

It is dangerous to do anything else. Yes, Evgeni is the best skater in the world and he will most likely come out on top every time. But it is dangerous not to back your younger skaters, too. The Federation must support the younger ones else they will be stuck when Evgeni finally cannot compete anymore (although I do not wish to think about such a time! :is_te_ri_ka: ).

If Artur should recover from this and beat Evgeni at Europeans next year...then Artur earns the spot and the right to fight for redemption. If Evgeni beats Artur Evgeni has earned the spot and the right to fight for the spaces at Worlds.

Of course, many will say, Evgeni is much more consistent than Artur, much more likely to stay strong and win. And I agree normally. But I hope that Artur can build his strength and rule the world after Evgeni. :a_g_a:

Anyway, this is next season. Hopefully Artur can have a little holiday now and then they prepare for next season. plush48 And there will be lots of Russian flags everywhere and lots of medals from Mishin's skaters! Liza will be Senior too! plush48
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Re: Женя и его тренер А.Н.Мишин || Evgeni and his coach Mish

Postby clairdelalune » 11 Apr 2012, 18:20

karnelove wrote:I think Russia should obey their usual selection policies. Use Nationals to choose who to send to Europeans. Use Europeans to choose who to send to Worlds.

I don't know if Evgeni is doing any GP event this year or Europeans. Maybe they want to prepair him for Worlds, so they have to decide now who is going to Words, Plushy or Arthur. Worlds are in Canada and it will be a very tough competition for Evgeni.
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Re: Женя и его тренер А.Н.Мишин || Evgeni and his coach Mish

Postby Дарина » 11 Apr 2012, 18:41

karnelove » 45 минут назад
I think Russia should obey their usual selection policies.

I think Evgeni will compete in Chanada no matter what :plush34: . Russia needs 2 or 3 spots for Sochi. Even if Evgeni misses the podium :plush44: , he for sure will be in top 10, so Russia will have 2 spots. Artur is less likely to be able to guarantee such result.
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Re: Женя и его тренер А.Н.Мишин || Evgeni and his coach Mish

Postby clairdelalune » 11 Apr 2012, 18:55

Дарина wrote:
karnelove » 45 минут назад
I think Russia should obey their usual selection policies.

I think Evgeni will compete in Chanada no matter what :plush34: . Russia needs 2 or 3 spots for Sochi. Even if Evgeni misses the podium :plush44: , he for sure will be in top 10, so Russia will have 2 spots. Artur is less likely to be able to guarantee such result.


Yes!!!! Artur may have a great season next year, but Evgeni has more chances to make the podium or top 10, IMHO. It would be embarassing for Russia to have only 2 spots for Sochi, one of them because it's the host country. :plush30: Russian FS Federation won't allow that.
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Re: Женя и его тренер А.Н.Мишин || Evgeni and his coach Mish

Postby lovplush » 11 Apr 2012, 19:21

clairdelalune wrote:
karnelove wrote:I think Russia should obey their usual selection policies. Use Nationals to choose who to send to Europeans. Use Europeans to choose who to send to Worlds.

I don't know if Evgeni is doing any GP event this year or Europeans. Maybe they want to prepair him for Worlds, so they have to decide now who is going to Words, Plushy or Arthur. Worlds are in Canada and it will be a very tough competition for Evgeni.


I think Plushy still has a lot fans in NA no matter what. Those people bashing Plushy on NA forums :plush43: are only a very small portion who probably won't watch live anyway. People who pay the tickets are those wishing to witness great performances from the skaters, and we all know Plushy loves competitions and performing :plush33: . So I do not worry about him not being well received in the arena.

Media is another story, but I think he has come through so many years of competitions he knows what to expect from the media and would not be affected by them.

And he surely would like a "revenge" to show the world who is the best plush48 no matter how tough the competition would be.
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Re: Женя и его тренер А.Н.Мишин || Evgeni and his coach Mish

Postby cekoni » 12 Apr 2012, 00:44

lovplush wrote:... And he surely would like a "revenge" to show the world who is the best plush48 no matter how tough the competition would be.

Who is "best" will decide judges :plush34:
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